take the defense department. you know we had and you just talked about programs that were a few million dollars. defense department had cost over runs of 350 billion dollars in 2008 programs. costing out a aircraft for 11 billion. the confidence we had in the defense department that that was the right price. but my point is, we sold it to congress and we have cost overruns. >> i am going to let tracey jump in here. defense department keeps us safe. i am not sure. >> i am up night wor're worries about the jordan hooka. what bothers me most is the denial part of it all is well and why need a versionful alcoholics anonymous. hast halfful them don't believe we have a problem. >> one . outrage is a u.s. senator centered on the senate floor and calm would fox out for saying we make it up. >> government has never been able to control itself. there is no profit motive with the government and no incentive for efficienciy. since the end much world war ii presidents and congresses have had federal spending 18 and 21 percent